{"id":917,"date":"2008-02-01T00:04:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-01T00:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/johnito.nl\/blog\/?p=917"},"modified":"2012-01-28T00:47:05","modified_gmt":"2012-01-28T00:47:05","slug":"internetkabels-kapotgetrokken-in-zee-op-vier-verschillende-plaatsen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johnito.nl\/blog\/2008\/02\/01\/internetkabels-kapotgetrokken-in-zee-op-vier-verschillende-plaatsen\/","title":{"rendered":">Internetkabels "kapotgetrokken" in zee op VIER verschillende plaatsen"},"content":{"rendered":"

>NY Times<\/a> meldt:<\/span><\/p>\n

One cable was damaged near Alexandria, Egypt, and the other in the waters off Marseille, France, telecommunications operators said. The two cables, which are separately managed and operated, were damaged within hours of each other. Damage to undersea cables, while rare, can result from movement of geologic faults or possibly from the dragging anchor of a ship.<\/p>\n

Bij een eerder bericht<\/a> hierover zei ik:<\/p>\n

Wat dus betekent dat er geen onafhankelijke media verslag kan doen van gebeurtenissen in het gebied?<\/p>\n

<\/span>Dat lijkt niet volledig het geval te zijn, aangezien er via diverse andere kabels omgeleid wordt.<\/p>\n

Maar de <\/span>Daily Telegraph<\/a> meldt:<\/span><\/p>\n

The cable, which lies in the Mediterranean Sea, was “cut”, according to officials, leading to widespread distruption of internet and communication services in Egypt and Kuwait, and causing problems with telephone services in the United Arab Emirates. It slowed trading on the Dubai stock exchange, and has had a significant impact on many of the call centres and outsourced offices operating in India. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

En<\/span><\/p>\n

Rajesh Chharia, president of the Internet Service Providers’ Association of India, said: “There has been a 50 to 60 percent cut in bandwidth.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Verder lijken Israel, Irak, en Libanon niet getroffen door de ” storing.” De meeste regeringen in het Midden Oosten ook niet, aangezien ze overgestapt zijn op internet via satellietverbindingen.<\/span><\/p>\n

Maar hoe groot is de kans dat op zo’n grote afstand van elkaar, binnen een etmaal, op twee locaties in de Middelandse Zee meerdere kabels per ongeluk worden kapotgetrokken?<\/p>\n

Ik zou sabotage niet te snel uitsluiten, als ik Sherlock zou heten. In ieder geval lijkt het me verstandig om de komende week extra kritisch te zijn op officiele persberichten<\/a> over gebeurtenissen in het Midden Oosten.<\/p>\n

UPDATE<\/span> 1 februari 21:45: <\/span>Ik moet toegeven dat ik even heb gedacht dat ik iets te para was over dit onderwerp. Dit blijkt echter niet terecht geweest te zijn:<\/p>\n

Inmiddels is er een <\/span>derde breuk<\/a> bij Dubai.<\/p>\n

<\/span> Zie ook:<\/p>\n

Kaart<\/a> (met dank aan Renatus<\/a>)<\/p>\n

Desert Peace<\/a>.<\/p>\n

BBC<\/a><\/p>\n

Third undersea Internet cable cut in Mideast<\/a><\/p>\n

Third undersea cable reportedly cut between Sri Lanka, Suez<\/a> (eigenlijk de vierde?)<\/p>\n

Internet failure hits two continents<\/a><\/p>\n

UPDATE 23:20:<\/span> Defense Tech<\/a> wijst naar ” terroristen” die wel eens kabeltjes aan het knippen zouden kunnen zijn. Je kunt je afvragen of dat terecht is. Zouden die uitgerekend Israel, en Amerikaanse satellietstaten als Irak en Libanon<\/a>, buiten schot laten? Lijkt me sterk. Bovendien zou internet juist het belangrijkste propagandawapen voor ” terroristen<\/a>” zijn.<\/p>\n

UPDATE 2 FEBRUARI 01:45:<\/p>\n

-Michael Rivero herinnert ons eraan dat de FBI, in de dagen voor 9\/11, diverse Arabische en islamitische websites afsloot<\/a>.<\/p>\n

–Smoking Mirrors<\/a> schrijft: <\/span><\/p>\n

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Over the last several days four underground cables have been cut in the Middle East<\/st1:place>. You can read about it here<\/a> and here. One was also cut that linked UAE and Oman<\/st1:place><\/st1:country> so this<\/a> gives us four cables. Guess what? Ships dragging anchors caused this in every case. At no time in the past did four major cables get cut at the same relative time by dragging ship\u2019s anchors and now four have been cut just like that. Can you say \u201cthree high rise buildings tumbling into their own footprints in one day?\u201d I thought you could. <\/p>\n

Iran<\/st1:place><\/st1:country> has virtually (pun intended) no internet at the moment and there are many countries whose internet and telephone are seriously disrupted. See anything about this in the whore press? Nada\u2026<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Iran heeft geen internet meer.<\/a><\/p>\n

UPDATE 2 FEBRUARI 2:34: <\/span>Iran schijnt weer online te zijn, maar de signalen worden nu omgeleid via UK en VS. ” Can you say: wiretap<\/a>?” <\/span><\/p>\n

<\/span>Je kunt je nu serieus gaan afvragen of er iets aan de gang is in de regio waar geen getuigen (dus onafhankelijke bloggers) van mogen zijn. Het zou me nu niets verbazen indien er de komende tijd opeens weer bedreigingen op “extremistische islamitische websites” , gehost in de Amerikaanse staat Texas<\/a>, gaan verschijnen. Of erger<\/a>.<\/p>\n

UPDATE 2 FEBRUARI 3:20:<\/p>\n

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The paper also said that state Telecom Egypt on Thursday “sealed a deal” for a new 3,100 kilometer (1,900 miles) -long undersea cable between Egypt and France, also through the Mediterranean that would take over 18 months to complete. It did not say who Telecom’s partners in the deal were. IHT<\/span><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

UPDATE 3 FEBRUARI 00:50:<\/span><\/p>\n

Ik ben zelf kapitein, heb alle papieren en heb zelf over de wereldzee\u00ebn gevaren. Daarom weet ik dat de onderzeese kabels op alle zeekaarten aangegeven zijn en dat ze in de omgeving van de kust met boeien en waarschuwingsborden zijn gemarkeerd. Geen enkele kapitein kan het zich veroorloven hierop geen acht te slaan en de kabels met zijn anker te beschadigen. En dat gebeurt dan op VIER verschillende plaatsen en ook nog eens gelijktijdig, waarbij alleen de moslimwereld getroffen wordt? Wat een sprookje! Dwarslezing<\/span><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Een overzicht van What Really Happened<\/a>:<\/span><\/p>\n

HISTORICAL PRECEDENT: UNDERSEA CABLES CUT AS PRELUDE TO WAR<\/a><\/p>\n

Israelis told to prepare ‘rocket rooms’ for war<\/a><\/p>\n

Pentagon rejects report, says ready for WMD attack<\/a><\/p>\n

Map of submarine optical network cables<\/a><\/p>\n

Cutting Cables, Lighting Fuses<\/a><\/p>\n

Mideast, S. Asian internet crippled<\/a><\/p>\n

Submarine Cable Map<\/a><\/p>\n

Posted Feb 2, 2008 08:19 AM<\/strong> PST
Category: CURRENT EVENTS<\/span>
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Note the illustration at lower left<\/a>, which confirms that as cables come up into shallow depths, they are BURIED TO PROTECT THEM FROM TRAWLERS AND ANCHORS. <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n

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Iran Oil Bourse to deal blow to dollar<\/a><\/p>\n

U.S. Faces More Delay on Iran Sanctions<\/a><\/p>\n

4 cuts in data cables collective punishment = a War Crime?<\/a><\/p>\n

How long before the World experiences a “Cyber 9\/11?”<\/a><\/p>\n

AS RIGHT BEFORE 9\/11, PATSY NATION’S INTERNET CUT OFF<\/a><\/p>\n

2nd FLAG Undersea Cable Cut, Now Between UAE and Oman<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

Global Research:<\/p>\n

<\/span><\/span>Pentagon: The internet needs to be dealt with as if it were an enemy weapons system .<\/a><\/p>\n

<\/span>Middle East Internet Blackouts Spur Geopolitical Suspicions<\/a><\/p>\n

In Response to NATO Threat: Russian Armed Forces prepare for Nuclear Onslaught<\/a><\/p>\n

UPDATE 3 FEBRUARI 3:00:<\/p>\n

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In light of the American Navy’s demonstrated sea-floor capabilities and espionage activities, the heavy American Navy presence in the region, and the many veiled threats against Iran by both the Americans and the Israelis, suspicion naturally falls on them both. It may be that this is what the beginning of a war against Iran looks like. Or maybe we are merely seeing a dry run, a practice run, for a planned, upcoming war against Iran. The cables that have been cut are among the largest communication pipes in the region, and clearly represent major strategic targets.<\/p>\n

Whatever the case, it is crystal clear that we are not looking at business as usual. On the contrary, we are looking at distinctly unusual business, that much is obvious.<\/p>\n

The explanations being put forth in the mainstream news media for these several cut, undersea communications cables absolutely do not pass the smell test. And by the way, the same operators who cut undersea cables in the Persian Gulf, Mediterranean Sea and possibly the Suez as well, presumably can also cut underwater cables in the Gulf of Mexico or Great Lakes or … you see my point. This could be a multipurpose operation, in part a test run for isolating a country from the international communications grid. Iran today, the USA tomorrow?<\/p>\n

What’s that you say? I don’t understand how the world works? That kind of thing can’t happen here?<\/p>\n

In any event, if the cables have been intentionally cut, then that is an aggressive act of war. I’m sure the Iranians have gotten that message, and are actively making counter preparations against a possible imminent attack. I’m looking at the same telegram as they are, and I know I would be, were I in their shoes. Rys2Sense-forum<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n


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Iran officieel nog steeds geen signaal<\/a>. Maar toch kan ik op Iraanse sites<\/a> komen. Ook op websites van burgers.<\/a><\/p>\n

Hoe kan dit? Iemand een idee? Heeft Marc Parent <\/a>gelijk? Een mogelijk antwoord hier.<\/a><\/p>\n

UPDATE 4 FEBRUARI 00:36:<\/p>\n

Volgens het Egyptische ministerie van communicatie zijn de kabelbreuken NIET veroorzaakt door schepen, aldus de Khaleej Times<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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CAIRO – Damage to undersea Internet cables in the Mediterranean that hit business across the Middle East and South Asia was not caused by ships, Egypt\u2019s communications ministry said on Sunday, ruling out earlier reports.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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The transport ministry added that footage recorded by onshore video cameras of the location of the cables showed no maritime traffic in the area when the cables were damaged.<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n

\u2018The ministry\u2019s maritime transport committee reviewed footage covering the period of 12 hours before and 12 hours after the cables were cut and no ships sailed the area,\u2019 a statement said.<\/span><\/p>\n

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De reparatie van de breuk bij Egypte begint overigens komende dinsdag<\/a>, en zal naar verwachting, een week in beslag nemen.<\/p>\n

Verder:<\/p>\n

<\/span><\/span><\/span> There’s Something Wicked in the Wind.<\/a><\/p>\n


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<\/a>Kan het zijn dat we gewoon geplayed worden? Tot nu toe kom ik nergens commentaren tegen dat Iraans gehoste sites daadwerkelijk onbereikbaar zijn. (En ja, ik heb ze zelf getest)<\/span><\/p>\n

Zie ook de comment onder dit blog<\/a>:<\/p>\n

I wonder which Iranian sites people (who?) are having trouble downloading? All the sites below are hosted in Iran, they’re online and available Sunday, 03 February 2008. Some of them load slowly, but from my experience almost all sites hosted in Iran load slowly, most of the time anyway.<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.khayamnet.net\/
– Khayamnet, online as of 03 Feb, ISP company, physically located in Iran
http:\/\/whois.domaintools.com\/khayamnet.net (shows IP location – Iran)<\/p>\n

http:\/\/217.218.80.9\/
– Kavosh Internet, online as of 03 Feb, ISP company, physically located in Iran
http:\/\/whois.domaintools.com\/217.218.80.9 (shows IP location – Iran)<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.Moqavemat.ir
– Moqavemat, online as of 03 Feb, Islamic Resistance Movement, hosted in Iran
http:\/\/whois.domaintools.com\/moqavemat.ir (shows IP location – Iran)<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.nic.ir\/
– Directory of sites using the domain .ir , online as of 03 Feb, hosted in Iran
http:\/\/whois.domaintools.com\/nic.ir (shows IP location – Iran)<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.ahmadinejad.ir\/
– President Ahmadinejad’s blog, online as of 03 Feb, hosted in Iran
http:\/\/whois.domaintools.com\/ahmadinejad.ir (shows IP location – Iran)<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.leader.ir\/
– The Office of the Supreme Leader Sayyid Al Khamenei, online as of 03 Feb, hosted in Iran
http:\/\/whois.domaintools.com\/leader.ir (shows IP location – Iran)<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.presstv.ir\/
– Press TV News Organisation, online as of 03 Feb, hosted in Iran
http:\/\/whois.domaintools.com\/presstv.ir (shows IP location – Iran)<\/p>\n

If anyone is having trouble downloading a site hosted in Iran I’d appreciate it if he or she would post the URL here, I’d like to try it myself. I haven’t found any current sites hosted in Iran that are unavailable.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n


Of is het gewoon zo dat het simpelweg een mislukt plan is, aangezien er volop via Europa<\/a> wordt omgeleid. Wellicht wordt ook lang niet al het internetverkeer gemonitord door ITR<\/span><\/a>.<\/p>\n

<\/span>UPDATE 4 FEBRUARI 15:15:<\/span><\/p>\n

Renatus<\/a> wijst ons op Cryptogon<\/a>:<\/p>\n

<\/span><\/span>The \u201cNo Internet in Iran\u201d Story is Bullcrap, but that Didn\u2019t Stop 17 People from Submitting it [..] The page that all of you are submitting monitors one router, which happens to be down, at the Iran University of Science and Technology. Somehow, through the magic bullshit amplification powers of the Intertubes, the fact that one router is down at an Iranian university has snowballed into \u201cIran is off the air.\u201d
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<\/span><\/i>Goed nieuws dus, Iran is gewoon niet afgesneden<\/a> van internet. Blijft nog steeds de belangrijkste vraag openstaan: hoe kunnen vier kabels, in twee waterlichamen, in zo’n korte tijd worden afgesneden? Ankers lijken uitgesloten<\/a>.<\/p>\n

En nog een andere belangrijke vraag: waarom?<\/a>
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Meer volgt…<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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