{"id":1488,"date":"2011-08-10T19:58:00","date_gmt":"2011-08-10T19:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/johnito.nl\/blog\/?p=1488"},"modified":"2016-06-13T22:33:31","modified_gmt":"2016-06-13T22:33:31","slug":"the-moral-problem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/johnito.nl\/blog\/2011\/08\/10\/the-moral-problem\/","title":{"rendered":">The Moral Problem"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/JohnitoBlog\/status\/101381369929797632\">Rioters<\/a> don&#8217;t even bother hiding their face,according to<a href=\"http:\/\/rtl.nl\/xl\/#\/u\/c44d48e8-2696-429c-8fb5-4302dc3edcd6\/\"> Dutch television<\/a>.Or do they?<br \/>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-P-P6HoLjlH0\/TkLjQSAw5tI\/AAAAAAAAB24\/n30JVWlEZLg\/s1600\/arndalerioters.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 239px;\" src=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-P-P6HoLjlH0\/TkLjQSAw5tI\/AAAAAAAAB24\/n30JVWlEZLg\/s320\/arndalerioters.jpg\" alt=\"\" id=\"BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5639319552273737426\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<br \/>Rioters in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.metro.co.uk\/news\/871882-manchester-riots-see-arndale-centre-targeted-as-uk-chaos-spreads\">Arndale Centre<\/a> August 9<br \/>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/dHN4aGDco-c?hd=1\" allowfullscreen=\"\" width=\"500\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"300\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ukuncut.org.uk\/blog\/occupy-for-the-alternative\">UK Uncut protest March 26<\/a><\/p>\n<p>What right does Cameron think he has, to preach about a &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/cheats\/2011\/08\/10\/cameron-something-sick-with-british-society.html\">moral problem<\/a>&#8220;, when he allows <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/uk\/2011\/aug\/10\/england-riots-police-birmingham-dead\">police<\/a> to use <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/notes\/naomi-wolf\/another-brave-and-talented-citizen-reporter-from-the-uk-on-far-right-incitement\/10150271686917949\">agent provocateurs<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.indymedia.org.uk\/en\/2011\/08\/483293.html\">stir up riots<\/a> during earlier protests, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.presstorm.com\/2011\/08\/investigative-analysis-want-to-cover-up-an-extra-judicial-murder-start-a-riot\/\">perhaps<\/a>  also <a href=\"http:\/\/johnito.blogspot.com\/2011\/08\/groot-brittanie-brandt.html\">the current riots? <\/a>What kind of society leaves the <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.alexanderhiggins.com\/2011\/08\/09\/guardian-london-riots-context-333-deaths-police-custody-0-convictions-52611\/\">death of 333 people in police custody<\/a> unpunished?<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/commentisfree\/2011\/aug\/12\/riots-home-truths-culture-fear-greed#\"><br \/>\n<br \/>How dare <\/a>political leaders lecture the people about moral issues, while their <a href=\"http:\/\/wordpress.particlestudios.net\/2011\/08\/10\/neoliberalism-is-destroying-europe\/\">neoliberal <\/a>policies in order to keep a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.globalresearch.ca\/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=21494\">parasitic monetary system<\/a> on life support, are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/business\/blog\/2011\/jul\/26\/vodafone-meeting-uk-uncut-protest\">criminal by design<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p>Now I don&#8217;t like<a href=\"http:\/\/dearkitty.blogsome.com\/2011\/08\/10\/british-riots-update\/\"> violence<\/a>. 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